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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:44 pm

I'm so normal, you'd be surprised!
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Post by scyth Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:15 pm

from 1~10 how would you say normal as 5 counts an normal normal
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:16 pm

I don't know...unusually normal. So normal you can't put a number value on it.
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Post by scyth Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:17 pm

aw,i see
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:18 pm

Ikr? Completely shocking!
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:22 pm

no one's normal...... everyone's unique, there's no definition of normal, what society's view of normal is is debatable,
there's nothing which is normal,
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:22 pm

Sure there is.

Ideally, there is no such thing as normal.

Sociologically, there is a normal.
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:25 pm

society itself is not normal at all, everyone's views on normal are different
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:26 pm

Yes, but that doesn't mean normal doesn't exist.
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:31 pm

what is normal?
In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The phrase "not normal" is often applied in a negative sense (asserting that someone or some situation is improper, sick, etc.) Abnormality varies greatly in how pleasant or unpleasant this is for other people.

Social norms are the behavioral expectations and cues within a society or group. This sociological term has been defined as "the rules that a group uses for appropriate and inappropriate values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors. These rules may be explicit or implicit. Failure to follow the rules can result in severe punishments, including exclusion from the group." They have also been described as the "customary rules of behavior that coordinate our interactions with others."

In the background lurks the question: what constitutes normal behavior? Who is normal?

There is the statistical response: the average and the common are normal. But it is unsatisfactory and incomplete. Conforming to social edicts and mores does not guarantee normalcy. Think about anomic societies and periods of history such as Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia. Model citizens in these hellish environments were the criminal and the sadist.

Rather than look to the outside for a clear definition, many mental health professionals ask: is the patient functioning and happy (ego-syntonic)? If he or she is both then all is well and normal. Abnormal traits, behaviors, and personalities are, therefore defined as those traits, behaviors, and personalities that are dysfunctional and cause subjective distress.




that's what i found with 5min of searching for what normal is =x
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:36 pm

You proved my point >_>

I said under a sociological definition, there is a normal.

Just because one doesn't agree with your culture's view of normalcy doesn't mean that it isn't normal.

Normal does exist.
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:39 pm

my point is nothing is normal due to the fact everyone defines it differently

Anyways, can we end this on a truce? talking about this topic's getting boring =x
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:46 pm

Normal may not exist on an individual level, but I'm not talking about individuals.

Sociology is the systematic study of human group behavior.

Like your definition says:

"Social norms are the behavioral expectations and cues within a society or group. This sociological term has been defined as "the rules that a group uses for appropriate and inappropriate values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors."

In society, there are expected behaviors that make you normal.

It is weird for Westerners to see Hindu ascetics measuring the distance they're walking by laying flat on the ground after every step, but in India, that is normal.

Sure that one individual may have some quirks, but I'm not talking about him as a person,
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:49 pm

sigh..... so i guess my truce was declined -.-
sigh,.... the internet society is made up of TOOOOO many different groups to call something normal, since ur posting on the internet, ur part of that, what u think of normal is not what others may think of as normal, therefore, i say normal doesn't exist to a group of people, it exists in each individual, BUT, based on that point, someone else's point of view on what;s normal does not exist, also saying, im saying ur not normal due to the fact u do not fit my criteria for who's normal and who's not, and really, being an otaku, i think THAT's normal,
BUT, instead of saying all that, it's a lot easier just saying, normal exists with oneself only, therefore not existing at all when placed upon a general population
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Post by Xenose Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:56 pm

Normal = deadbeat cubicle worker typing things we don't understand everyday.
Unique = deadbeat cubicle worker posting new threads on camonheroes.com
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Post by Entranced Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:58 pm

NORMAL IS YOUR OWN VERSION IS NORMAL, YOU ARE NORMAL TO YOURSELF AND SO EVERYONE IS NORMAL

SETTLED END OF STORY FFS.

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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:59 pm

Normal exists in groups.

There is an acceptable guideline for behaviors in every society.

Take a sociology class.

If you're such a fan of the Japanese culture, you should actually know that they PRIDE themselves on being "normal".

They pride themselves on being a functioning member of society while not disrupting the order of things.

There are subcultures.

There are countercultures who rebel against traditional, established norms of society, like punks and ganguros and scene kids.

Because these people exist, that doesn't mean normal doesn't.
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Post by Entranced Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:09 pm

WIN...
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:34 pm

sigh, as i said, and for like the 4th time, normal is only what someone believes it to be, enough said
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Post by Entranced Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:38 pm

k lol
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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:10 pm

It's not enough said, because that is wrong.
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:16 pm

we can keep argueing about this if u want =x im trying to end it, but im stubborn enough to always stick with 1 point after i know it's true =)

what do YOU think of normal?
it's critainly not what do i think of as normal,
what a person living in the country thinks of as normal,
is definitly what a person in the city thinks of as normal,
this isn't even talking about groups of people,
a person who lives on the sunny side of the street doesn't have the same meaning of normal as someone living in the shade, a person in the sunny area would think it's normal to see the sun every day, a person in the shade would think it's normal to see shade,
what one defines as normal can never be the same as someone else's,
look at it closely, im not defining normality as a part of personality, im defining it as the essance of being normal, there's no such thing, no way of being normal, everyone acts their own way, we're not just drones made and programmed the same way, 2 room mates living together, one might think it's normal to leave the milk on the counter, the other may think it's normal to switch it for orange juice as a prank, theres hundreds of ways of proving this, u can't prove me wrong
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Post by AkaneMishima Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:20 pm

That's how society works. It might not sound like you want it to but we thrive off of manipulation. You make friends by taking advantage of some common traits you share and then create a relationship out of that.


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Post by BlackBear Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:23 pm

You are trying to be profound, but it's not like that.

Normal does exist.

The concept exists.

Normal is real.

You can't say that it isn't because everyone has their own point of view.

There would be no societies, laws or any form of social organization if normal didn't exist.

You can't say it doesn't exist because you live in a society.
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Post by 411662 Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:29 pm

im not being profound,
normal doesn't exist,
why? cause everyone has their point of view,
there would be no freedom movements, no turning points in history, no flaw in society, if normal DID exist,
it's people going against it which makes those things real, and to those people, that's normal, to some more ppl, normal is just walking around doing nothing, since it's different with each individual, normal doesn't exist,
i can say this cause i see society not as a group, but as individuals
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